This is the second consecutive game they have missed. Rose did not fly with the Bulls to Memphis after their win Thursday night over the New York Knicks.
"If he was feeling better, we were going to fly him down," Thibodeau said before Friday's game. "He's feeling a little better but not good enough to play so [it's better] to keep him at home."
This is the 10th game Rose has missed this season. He missed eight earlier in the year because of lingering ankle injuries.
"This time of the year people get sick," Thibodeau said. "You got to deal with it. Usually when it hits one guy, it goes through the team. Jimmy [Butler] was sick the other day; he had to deal with it for a couple days -- whatever. It happens."
Gibson remains day-to-day after reinjuring the same right ankle that has given him problems over the past year and a half and caused him to miss two weeks earlier this season.
In other injury-related news, rookie Doug McDermott is back traveling with the Bulls and is hopeful he can be back to playing in a few weeks after having arthroscopic right knee surgery to fix a small tear in his meniscus.
CHICAGO -- After watching Jimmy Butler rack up a career-high 35 points to go along with seven assists and five rebounds in a 103-97 win over the New York Knicks, Tom Thibodeau summed up the city of Chicago's feelings toward the 25-year-old Chicago Bulls ironman.
"Just thank God for Jimmy Butler," the Bulls coach said.
On a night when the Bulls didn't have Derrick Rose (illness) or Taj Gibson (right ankle), Butler took another step in his development in a season that has already been chock full of them. Butler, as has become the case several times this season without Rose, was the focal point of Thibodeau's sets -- the guy that the rest of his teammates look toward every time down the floor.
Thibodeau and his players are running out of ways to sing Butler's praises. Just when people think Butler has hit a ceiling, he bursts through it and continues climbing. Butler, who bet on himself when he declined a contract extension before the Oct. 31 deadline, has become as consistent a player as the Bulls have. Thibodeau leans on him on both ends of the floor, but the biggest key is that the Bulls are now leaning on him night to night offensively.
Veteran Pau Gasol believes Butler is taking another step toward becoming a star.
"He's playing extremely well," Gasol said. "With a lot of confidence, with a lot of aggressiveness. Just asserting himself every single game, both ends of the floor. I look forward to seeing him continue to play at this level. It's not easy to do, but he's doing outstanding and I'm just proud of him."
But why is it happening now? Why is Butler averaging eight more points a game (20.9) this season and dominating the way he has at both ends? What changed for him?
"My confidence, it's up there," he said. "Like I always say, Chris Johnson, who was my trainer over the summer in Houston, he put that in me to know that, be confident in everything you do. Ball-handling, shooting, post, in transition. That guy did a lot for me."
But Butler and Thibodeau believe he can do even more, and after watching his development through the first two months of this season, why should anyone doubt them?
"My thing to him is why put a lid on it?" Thibodeau said. "Where can it go? I don't know. All I know is it keeps going up. That's the way I want him to approach it. He brings great concentration and great effort every day. And when you bring those things and you couple that with his talent, great things are going to happen and he's showing that.
"The best leadership you could have is by doing all the right things. You can't put any more into it than what he's putting into it right now."
Effort wasn’t an issue for the New York Knicks on Thursday night. Talent was.
The undermanned Knicks fought for 48 minutes against the Chicago Bulls but came up short to lose their third straight game.
New York fell to 5-23, the worst record in franchise history through 28 games.
With Derrick Rose out, Chicago was led by Jimmy Butler, who had 35 points on 11-for-21 shooting.
Pau Gasol had 20 points, including a layup in traffic to put Chicago up three with under a minute to play. Gasol’s layup basically sealed the win for the Bulls, who have taken seven straight home games against the Knicks.
Short-handed: With Carmelo Anthony, J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpert out, the Knicks started five players that Derek Fisher probably never thought he’d ask to start a game.
Jose Calderon and Tim Hardaway Jr. started in the backcourt along side Travis Wear, Amar'e Stoudemire and Cole Aldrich in the frontcourt.
The Knicks battled throughout, going on a 7-0 run to cut Chicago’s lead to one with under five minutes to play. But they couldn’t get over the hump. Anthony sat due to soreness in his right knee.
STAT suits up: Stoudemire didn’t think he was going to play in the morning but told reporters he was going to suit up with Anthony out. Say what you want about Stoudemire, but he has shown strong leadership qualities for a Knicks team in transition this season. Stoudemire had 16 points on 7-for-13 shooting. Tim Hardaway Jr. led the Knicks with 23 points.
Question: Do you think Carmelo Anthony should sit out for an extended period?
Playing without Rose, who sat out with an illness, the Bulls got another strong game from Butler. He was 11 of 21 from the floor with four 3-pointers, five rebounds, seven assists and four steals.
Still, the Bulls had trouble shaking a short-handed New York team that's lost three straight and 13 of 14. The Knicks were led by Tim Hardaway Jr., who had 23 points and five 3-pointers.
Samuel Dalembert made a basket with 2 seconds left in the third quarter to give the Knicks a 74-73 lead heading into the fourth. New York outscored the Bulls 29-21 in the third, holding Chicago to six field goals.
Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau said Rose, who was not at the United Center, would not travel with the Bulls after the game in advance of Friday's contest against the Memphis Grizzlies. He left open the door that Rose could rejoin the Bulls before Friday's game if he is feeling better.
"We'll see how he feels [Friday]," Thibodeau said.
This was the ninth game Rose has missed this season, after dealing with ankle injuries throughout the first month of the season.
Bulls forward Taj Gibson, who did not participate in Thursday morning's shootaround because of a right ankle injury, was ruled out after warming up. He will travel with the team on the charter flight to Memphis.
Center Joakim Noah played after missing the previous four games because of a sprained right ankle. He had four points and 13 rebounds in 34 minutes.
CHICAGO -- New York Knicks star Carmelo Anthony sat out Thursday night's 103-97 loss to the Chicago Bulls because of left knee soreness and admitted before Thursday's shootaround that people close to him are trying to get him to shut things down for a few weeks.
"I have multiple people say kind of just shut it down," Anthony said. "Or just take time off. But at the end of the day, it's hard for me to just do that right now in the midst of what's happening with the team and this season. So just trying to be smart about that."
Anthony said the knee started acting up again in Tuesday night's loss to the Dallas Mavericks, and he acknowledged that he didn't do much during Wednesday's practice. He wanted to warm up tonight before making a final decision.
"It gets frustrating," he said. "Not knowing what's going to happen kind of with your body. So for me it's just taking it as the days come."
Anthony was hopeful that his knee would feel better with a few more days of treatment and said that "some days are better than others" as far as the pain in the knee goes. He has been feeling soreness since the Knicks' second game of the season. The team's medical staff has told him his condition will not improve if he continues to play -- but it also will not worsen.
He isn't sure what it would take to finally make the decision to rest it for a while. He said earlier this month that he would consider surgery as a last option.
"I have multiple people say kind of just shut it down," Anthony said before Thursday's shootaround. "Or just take time off. But at the end of the day, it's hard for me to just do that right now in the midst of what's happening with the team and this season. So just trying to be smart about that."
Anthony said he didn't do much during Wednesday's practice and wanted to warm up Thursday night before making a final decision.
"It gets frustrating," he said. "Not knowing what's going to happen kind of with your body. So for me it's just taking it as the days come."
Thursday's game marks the first time Anthony has been back at the United Center since spurning the Bulls in free agency over the summer. The All-Star small forward said it wasn't weird for him being back in the building he toured alongside Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau and several other members of the organization.
"Not at all, man," Anthony said. "I came here this summer and visited. I had great meetings, but as far as being weird, it wasn't no connection like that for it to be weird. Not at all."
Anthony also noted that he wasn't concerned about being booed by Bulls fans.
"That's not something I'm thinking about right now or worried about," he said. "I got to worry about how I feel. So if I'm thinking about whether somebody's going to cheer for me or boo me, I can't do that right now. I can't worry about that."
Thibodeau isn't concerned about the reunion or what might have been had Anthony signed with the Bulls in the summer.
"I have great respect for what he's done," Thibodeau said. "He's a great talent, but he's a great person, too. I got to know him a little bit through USA [Basketball], coach [Jim] Boeheim. And the things that Coach [Mike] Krzyzewski and Coach Boeheim said about him told me that he would be a great fit for any team. When you look at his career, it speaks for itself. The numbers are incredible. [He] probably doesn't get the credit for being the passer that he is, playmaker. But that's what the people with USA Basketball said that's the role he played for that team. So [I have] great respect for him. Every player has to do what they feel is best for himself and his family, and I think that's what he did. I think he was totally honest with everybody."
If Anthony doesn't play, he will join Knicks big man Amar'e Stoudemire on the bench. The veteran power forward said he was sitting out Thursday's game to rest.
"A lot of games have been crunched into the early part of the season," Stoudemire said. "I've been called on to play a lot more than I was expected to, so it's a smart decision to rest and get ready for another brutal month."
Knicks swingman J.R. Smith did not travel with the team to Chicago as he continues getting treatment for a plantar fascia injury.
As for Rose, Thibodeau said he was not feeling well and did not go through shootaround. Rose has already missed eight games this season because of injury. Bulls forward Taj Gibson also did not participate in shootaround. He is questionable because of a right ankle injury. Bulls center Joakim Noah did go through shootaround and is expected to play after missing the last four games because of lingering ankle and knee problems.
CHICAGO -- Few who were deeply involved in the Chicago Bulls' pursuit of Carmelo Anthony last summer want to talk about it. Anthony told reporters in New York on Wednesday that he didn't want to second-guess himself regarding his decision to stay with the Knicks.
Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau and center Joakim Noah, both of whom tried hard to lure the All-Star small forward to Chicago, believe that their team is in good shape despite the fact that they didn't land Anthony. But as the Knicks star heads back to Chicago for the first time since spurning the Bulls in free agency, it's worth taking a look back at what might have been.
It appears many fans feel the Bulls are better off without Anthony and should be happy with Pau Gasol and Nikola Mirotic and the depth and talent they provide. And that group is growing steadily throughout the season as Anthony and the Knicks struggle. The Knicks are 5-22 heading into Thursday's affair, while the Bulls are 15-9 and getting closer to hitting their stride. That's one of the reasons why the Bulls organization isn't concerned about Anthony's return.
Veteran Mike Dunleavy, the man who would likely have been traded if Anthony had signed with the Bulls last summer, put a funny spin on things after Thursday's practice when asked if he ever pondered what his life would be like if Anthony had come to Chicago.
"Not really," Dunleavy said. "I'd be playing basketball -- somewhere. Obviously, I'm really happy to be here, we got a pretty good team. Sometimes it's nice to have a Bentley, but a Honda Accord will get you there as well."
But to expound on Dunleavy's analogy, can a team full of dependable Accords, led by a Bentley which has been in for several repairs over the past few years (Derrick Rose), take this team to a championship? That remains to be seen. The Bulls have talent and skill, and the core of Rose, Noah, Taj Gibson and Jimmy Butler have been together for more than four years now. But as Anthony returns to Chicago, it's worth remembering why the Bulls went so hard after him in the first place: They know superstar players win in the playoffs.
They knew that Anthony, despite some of his flaws, would be a great fit on this team because of his ability to score and create for himself offensively. After meeting with him on the first day of free agency, they came away even more convinced. For about a day and a half in July, there was a genuine feeling within the Bulls' organization that Anthony was coming to Chicago, a feeling backed up by Anthony's comments in an MSG Network documentary.
Gasol has had a phenomenal start to the season and could be headed to another All-Star Game in February, but how much will the Bulls be able to lean on him in the playoffs to create if Rose still hasn't found the consistency in his game or is getting harassed by two or three defenders at a time?
The Bulls have talented players -- but how many true superstars do they have on this team? Rose is a former MVP, but he has struggled to find his game at times after missing a majority of the past two years because of two serious knee injuries. Noah is the reigning Defensive Player of the Year, but has not looked the same this year after offseason knee surgery. Gasol seems revitalized to be playing in Chicago, but at 34, does he have enough gas in the tank to continue playing 35-plus minutes a night until mid-June?
The biggest wild card in this group, and in this particular discussion, is Butler. After turning down the Bulls' contract extension before the season, he has exploded this season to the tune of 20.9 points a game, almost eight more than he had per game a season ago. He looks more confident on the floor and is driving to the rim all the time. If Anthony had taken less to sign with the Bulls, Butler likely wouldn't have been able to make the huge ascension this season toward stardom. But as the season wears on, and Butler is asked to continually guard the opposition's best perimeter player, will Thibodeau be able to bank on getting 20-plus points from him every night?
From a financial perspective, the path toward this reworked Bulls squad is a reminder of just how much the Bulls wanted Anthony. The Knicks made it clear they did not want to work out a sign-and-trade for the All-Star. If he were going to leave, he was going to have to take less money, in this case being the Bulls' offer of about $17 million a year to start, to do it. The same goes for the Lakers and Gasol. They made it clear they weren't interested in a sign-and-trade for the big Spaniard that would have included Carlos Boozer -- a player they ended up getting anyway after the Bulls exercised their amnesty rights on the final year of his deal.
As Thibodeau and Noah noted on Wednesday, the Bulls are happy with the way things ultimately worked out. The team that Bulls GM Gar Forman and executive VP John Paxson built has a legitimate chance to win a championship this season. But if they can't win the organization's seventh title later this summer, they'll look back and wonder what might have been if Anthony had signed in Chicago. Maybe that's why, still many months later, several Bulls officials still use the same phrase in analyzing Anthony's decision:
"He made a mistake."
What if he had signed with the Bulls? How good would Chicago be with Anthony and Derrick Rose? How happy would Anthony be winning games -- and presumably winning a lot -- alongside coach Tom Thibodeau?
Anthony won't allow himself to entertain the notion of what could have been.
"If I start doing that and saying what if to myself and second-guessing and questioning myself, it won't be right," Anthony said after practice Wednesday as the Knicks prepare for Thursday night's game at Chicago. "For me, mentally it won't be right, so I will not allow myself to sway toward asking myself what if with this situation or that situation."
Anthony visited Chicago in July and came away thinking that he could have been a Bull. In an MSG Network documentary on his free agency, he said at one point that he thought he would sign with the Bulls and that it was a "perfect fit for me in Chicago."
He said he was thoroughly impressed with the organization and Thibodeau. But after also visiting the Los Angeles Lakers, Houston Rockets and Dallas Mavericks, Anthony opted to re-sign with the Knicks for $124 million over five years.
Noah, who is still recovering from offseason knee surgery, initially sprained his right ankle on Dec. 2 in a loss to the Dallas Mavericks and then re-sprained it in a win over the Charlotte Hornets on Dec. 3. He played 33 minutes in a loss to the Golden State Warriors on Dec. 5, but has not played since.
"My knee feels good," Noah said. "This is more of my ankle. I think it was good just to get some lifts and just take care of my body during this time, let it heal, and I feel pretty good and I'm excited to be able to play tomorrow."
Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau said Noah went through all of practice and sounded hopeful Noah will be able to contribute against the Knicks.
ATLANTA -- Derrick Rose missed 15 of the 21 shots he took in Monday night's 93-86 loss to the Atlanta Hawks. He turned the ball over six times. He was 0-for-7 from the 3-point line and made several poor decisions with the ball in his 31 minutes, 30 seconds of play.
But as a tired Bulls squad got dressed and made its way on to the bus awaiting outside Phillips Arena, Rose and Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau believe Monday's game was a positive development.
That's because Monday marked Rose's 11th consecutive game on the floor. It also marked just the second time all season he has started and finished back-to-back games. After watching Rose struggle to stay healthy throughout the first month of the season, Thibodeau seems relieved Rose is able to continue playing.
"There's a lot of things to the game that he can do to help us. Overall, I think he's doing well. It's not going to be perfect."
While Monday's game illustrated one of those times when things weren't perfect for Rose, he came into the game playing some of his best basketball since before he tore the ACL in his left knee in April 2012. Since being pulled from a Nov. 25 loss against the Denver Nuggets, Rose came into Monday averaging almost three more points a game (18.1 compared to 15.7 before the move, according to ESPN Stats & Information). Over the three contests entering Monday's game, he was averaging 22.7 points per game and shooting 53 percent from the field.
Most importantly to Thibodeau and the Bulls, Rose came into this game playing with so much more confidence going to the rim. Through his first seven games, he averaged 4.6 shots in the paint. Since the Denver game, he came in averaging 7.4 shots in the paint, and he took eight against the Hawks on Monday.
On Monday, he struggled with his jumper and didn't go to the rim as much. The Hawks packed the paint, daring Rose to shoot from the outside. He didn't seem bothered by the looks, believing that they were the right play.
"Shots that I normally hit, tonight they were flat," said Rose, who had 14 points, 8 assists and 5 rebounds. "Just didn't have no lift to them. I guarantee you, next game, that won't happen."
But that's one of the other small differences. The pre-injury Rose would have seen that his shot wasn't working and driven it to the rim. He would have either gotten fouled at the basket or created more space for his teammates on the drive. Twenty-four games into this season, there is still some hesitancy.
"I want him attacking," Thibodeau said. "When he attacks, he's special. When he tries to pace himself, that's not going to work. He's got to be aggressive. As I said, it's not perfect. But over the course of the game, he's going to make a lot more good plays than he is bad, and that's all good for us. He can't be afraid to take a chance, he's got great instincts, he's got great ability. I want him to go. It didn't work out this time, but it will work out next time."
Thibodeau and Rose are taking the right course of action: continue pumping the positivity and hope that everything clicks again consistently for the former MVP. Whether it's fair or not, Rose was so good before the first injury and raised the expectations so high on his game that it's still tough for all involved to get used to seeing him find the way back into a rhythm.
Back in the pre-injury days, the Bulls knew what they were getting from Rose every game. There were nights like Monday night when he wouldn't shoot well or turned the ball over a lot, but everyone knew that when the game was on the line, Rose would be the one making the right plays. No one knows whether Rose will become that player again.
"It's all a read," Rose said of his aggressiveness. "If someone's going, I'm not going to try and affect the game with just shooting up crazy shots, or shooting up a shot that I have no business shooting up just because I haven't shot a shot. I'm going to feel the game, see how things are going to go and try to involve myself in the game at some point."
That is a distinct change from seasons past, and it remains to be seen whether that will work over the long haul. The Bulls have more offensive talent than they did in Rose's first few seasons. They aren't leaning on him as much as they used to, but to get to where they want to go they're going to have to turn back the clock.
"I think they can attack you in a lot of different ways," Hawks coach Mike Budenholzer said of the Bulls. "They have more options and really talented offensive guys. I do think he's striking that balance. There probably have been times over the last three or four years where so much was expected from him. As a group, they have more ways to attack you offensively and maybe the burden isn't on him. That's a great thing for any player. I think he's finding that rhythm and balance of both. It's not good for the rest of us."