Giants' last five drafts: 2012

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The NFL draft is three weeks from today, which still gives us plenty of time to talk about what the New York Giants will do with the No. 12 pick and the importance of having their first really good draft in a really long time. But as we ponder all of that, this week we are taking some time to look at the last five Giants' drafts, and today's stop is on 2012, when they were defending Super Bowl champions and did something they hadn't done in more than a decade. They took a running back in the first round.

The Picks

First round (32 overall): David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech

Second round (63): Rueben Randle, WR, LSU

Third round (94): Jayron Hosley, CB, Virginia Tech

Fourth round (127): Adrien Robinson, TE, Cincinnati

Fourth round (131): Brandon Mosley, T, Auburn

Sixth round (201): Matt McCants, T, UAB

Seventh round (239): Markus Kuhn, DT, North Carolina State

Still with Giants: Wilson, Randle, Hosley, Robinson, Mosley, Kuhn

Still in NFL: McCants (Raiders)

Games played for Giants

Wilson: 21

Randle: 32

Hosley: 23

Robinson: 3

Mosley: 13

McCants: 0

Kuhn: 15

Review: Wilson was a revelation as a kick returner during his rookie year but a disappointment when handed the starting running back job in 2013. Two fumbles in the season opener got him benched, and once he was back in good graces, he injured his neck and missed the final 11 games of the season. Should he return healthy and develop into a star, that would help the long-term grade of this draft. But it also could get a boost from Randle, who has an opportunity to replace Hakeem Nicks as the team's playmaking deep threat at wide receiver. Hosley showed something as a nickel corner in 2012 but has had trouble staying healthy and now finds himself well down a stacked depth chart at cornerback. Robinson hasn't been able to get on the field, though they haven't given up on him yet and right now he's probably their projected starter. Mosley couldn't find his way onto the field in spite of massive problems at offensive line last year. They like Kuhn on special teams and think he can help as a rotational player at defensive tackle this year. It's too early to give a definitive grade to anyone's 2012 draft, but the Giants haven't had much immediate early return on this. The extent to which Wilson and Randle develop as offensive playmakers will determine whether this is remembered as a good draft or another in a series of busts. As with the three drafts we've already profiled this week, it doesn't appear as though they turned up anything of major value in the middle rounds.

Grade: C-minus (so far)
A 7-9 record in 2013 earned the New York Giants the No. 12 pick in next month's NFL draft. After an offseason that has seen them sign 15 outside free agents, they still have needs at tight end, wide receiver and on the offensive line, one of which could reasonably be addressed with that pick. It also wouldn't be out of character to see them add a defensive lineman if that's who they felt the best player was at No. 12.

ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper's latest mock draft is up today here on ESPN.com. It's two rounds long this time, and you have to have Insider access to read it. His picks for the Giants are aimed at finding some help for quarterback Eli Manning.


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I was up in Bristol the last two days doing TV, and I asked former Colts center Jeff Saturday what he thought about newly signed New York Giants center J.D. Walton.

Saturday remembered talking to the Broncos about Walton in 2012, when Denver had Saturday in to talk to him about joining the team following its signing of Peyton Manning. He said it sounded as though the Broncos liked Walton, who would end up showing some improvement early in 2012 before suffering an ankle injury that has kept him from playing since. (Saturday ended up instead with the Packers for what would turn out to be the final season of his career.)

Saturday said he felt Walton would be an upgrade over former Giants center David Baas, and that everything he's been told about Walton is that he's a good guy and a hard worker, but that he's not a big, bruising, push-em-back type of offensive lineman. But he also said that the Giants' blocking scheme doesn't require that of its center -- that it relies on its guards to dominate, and that may be where the concern still lies.

Geoff Schwartz is almost certainly an upgrade at left guard, but Chris Snee remains a question mark coming off his second hip surgery in as many years, and John Jerry is no sure thing behind him. I know NJ.com wrote recently about the Giants' potential interest in Colorado State center Weston Richburg, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them address center in the draft next month. But I also wouldn't be surprised if they addressed guard also or even instead. Not with their first-round pick, mind you -- No. 12 overall is too early to take an interior offensive lineman this year -- but maybe in the second and/or third rounds.

The ability of opposing defenses to pressure Eli Manning through the A-gaps last year was devastating to the Giants' offense, and they need to make sure their guard play is vastly improved if they want Manning and the offense to have a chance to recover.

Giants actually add Josh Freeman

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Even after we spent the past couple of days discussing it here, and even after Matt Flynn went back to Green Bay and left Josh Freeman as the last man standing in the New York Giants' search for an extra quarterback for the offseason, it was still hard to believe it would happen. Freeman washed out of two organizations last year, and the one game he played for the Vikings after the Buccaneers cut him was hardly a helpful audition. You'll remember that "Monday Night Football" fiasco as the Giants' first victory of the season, and the fact Freeman obviously wasn't at all prepared to play in the game was the main reason they were able to stop their losing streak.

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But they did it. The Giants have in fact agreed to terms with Freeman on a one-year deal, which means he'll likely be in the building next week when they start their offseason program and will be a candidate to take some of the snaps in OTAs and minicamp if starting quarterback Eli Manning's recovery from ankle surgery takes longer than expected.

I guess, if he shows something, Freeman could beat out Curtis Painter for the backup quarterback job. That assumes second-year project Ryan Nassib can't get into that mix, but given the level of his competition I don't know why he couldn't.

I know there isn't much out there on the quarterback market, and that Freeman was the best and most experienced of the candidates once Manning had surgery last week, and the Giants decided they needed to add a reserve quarterback. But if Freeman is on the 2014 Giants, I can't see how that helps them. Nothing we've heard about Freeman over the past year has indicated he'd be a useful backup. And while I'm willing to give him a pass for his ugly exit from Tampa Bay because I believe loony former Bucs coach Greg Schiano to have been at least as much at fault for their conflict as Freeman, it says a lot that he couldn't beat out Matt Cassel or Christian Ponder for playing time after the Vikings signed him in October. It also says a lot that this week was the first time any sort of market materialized for Freeman this offseason, given the state of the quarterback market.

So if you think Freeman is going to be some sort of diamond-in-the-rough signing for the Giants, or that having him on the team makes them better prepared to weather a potential Manning absence than they were yesterday, I'm going to take the opposite point of view. The best thing you can say about this move is that it probably can't hurt. But if the addition of Freeman has any impact on the Giants' 2014 season, they're in trouble.

Giants' last five drafts: 2011

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With the NFL draft still a relatively painful three weeks and one day away, we're taking a look this week at the New York Giants' last five drafts to see how much they've helped. Today we look at the 2011 draft, which saw the Giants pick a defensive back in the first round and then kind of flail around a bit.

The Picks

First round (19th overall): Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska

Second round (52): Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina

Third round (83): Jerrel Jernigan, WR, Troy

Fourth round (117): James Brewer, OT, Indiana

Sixth round (185): Greg Jones, LB, Michigan State

Sixth round (198): Tyler Sash, S, Iowa

Sixth round (202): Jacquian Williams, LB, South Florida

Seventh round (221): Da'Rel Scott, RB, Maryland

Still with Giants: Amukamara, Jernigan, Brewer, Williams

Still in NFL: Austin (Cowboys), Jones (Titans),

Games played with Giants

Amukamara: 36

Austin: 8

Jernigan: 36

Brewer: 24

Jones: 20

Sash: 29

Williams: 46

Scott: 20

Review: The Giants have already received more in terms of playing time and production from the second half of their 2011 draft class than they did from their 2009 and 2010 draft classes. Williams was a strong performer during the 2011 playoff run, especially in the NFC Championship Game victory in San Francisco, and could end up being a starter at linebacker this year with a good camp. Jernigan showed something as a Victor Cruz replacement in the final weeks of 2013. And Amukamara is a legitimate starting NFL cornerback. But all of that said, Austin was a swing-and-a-miss in the second round as an injury guy they hoped would work out. Brewer hasn't turned into anything in spite of repeated opportunities. And Jones, Sash and Scott were bit players at best at their peaks. Again, as we've discussed all week, you don't assume you're getting anything in those fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh rounds. But if you go three or four years without hitting on anything at all in those rounds, your roster gets thin in a hurry. If you've been following this series all week, you've seen that the Giants haven't turned up many helpers in the late rounds in the last half-decade. This draft was about Amukamara, a guy who fell to No. 19 in spite of pre-draft projections that had him in the top 10, and not much else.

Grade: D.

Josh Freeman, Giants agree to deal

April, 16, 2014
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Quarterback Josh Freeman and the New York Giants have agreed to a one-year contract, according to a league source.

Freeman worked out for the Giants on Tuesday. He also recently visited the Chicago Bears.

Freeman will compete for the No. 2 job on the Giants with Curtis Painter and Ryan Nassib.

Eli Manning underwent arthroscopic surgery on his left ankle Thursday but expects to be able to run again in about six weeks, the team previously announced. His 151 consecutive starts rate as the longest active streak in the NFL following the retirement of Washington's London Fletcher, and it is the third-longest by a quarterback in league history.

Freeman was cut by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in October. He was signed by the Minnesota Vikings and started just one game -- losing to the Giants on "Monday Night Football."

Freeman, 26, a first-round pick of the Buccaneers in 2009, started 56 games for the team. He enjoyed his best season in 2010, when he started 16 games and threw for 3,451 yards and 25 touchdowns with six interceptions. 

He has struggled since, throwing 43 interceptions over the past four seasons.

Adam Caplan is an ESPN NFL Insider.


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Eli Manning In Decline?

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Dan Graziano discusses QB Eli Manning's future with the Giants and whether he will have a bounce-back season.

NFL Nation Buzz: New York Giants

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ESPN.com Giants reporter Dan Graziano says quarterback Eli Manning can do plenty to help his teammates while he recovers from ankle surgery.
Mike Sando has an interesting piece Insider on ESPN.com looking at which current NFL quarterbacks would be worth trading the No. 1 overall pick in this year's draft. The premise is that the Houston Texans, who need a quarterback and have the No. 1 overall pick, are concerned about the quality of their choices and may opt not to take any of this year's quarterbacks No. 1 overall. So if, hypothetically, someone would trade them a quarterback for that pick, which quarterbacks would be worth it?

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Mike asked ESPN analyst Bill Polian, ESPN.com scout Matt Williamson and an NFL GM which quarterbacks would be worth it. Polian and the GM both listed New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning among the answers. Matt did not, as Mike explains:
Williamson listed nearly as many quarterbacks (17) as the other two panelists combined, but he left off Manning after a brutal 2013 season.

"Eli did have a very unlucky year and he's had a lot going against him of late, but frankly, he hasn't played good football in a year and a half," Williamson said.

So Manning falls into Mike's "Close but note quite" category, behind the seven quarterbacks who fell into the "clearly worth a No. 1 overall pick" category. Those seven are Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger, Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson. Only two of those seven (Peyton Manning and Luck) actually were a No. 1 overall picks, as Eli Manning was.

I think if the Giants offered Eli Manning to the Texans for the No. 1 pick in this year's draft, the Texans would say yes before the Giants ended their first sentence. The question to you, Giants fans, is if you'd trade Eli Manning for this year's No. 1 pick.

I would not, personally. Making a deal like that would require the Giants to find a quarterback to replace Manning, and any of the quarterbacks available in this year's (or any year's) draft would count themselves lucky to have half the career Manning already has had. The Giants have a franchise quarterback -- something not even half of the teams in the league can claim. There's no price to be put on that.

But what do you think?

Giants' last five drafts: 2010

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With the NFL draft still more than an excruciating three weeks away, we are taking a look this week at the New York Giants' last five drafts. Today we look back at the 2010 draft, which saw the Giants swing for the fences in the first round and hit a home run.

The Picks

1st round (15th overall): Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida

2nd round (46th): Linval Joseph, DT, East Carolina

3rd round (76th): Chad Jones, S, LSU

4th round (115th): Phillip Dillard, LB, Nebraska

5th round (147th): Mitch Petrus, G, Arkansas

6th round (184th): Adrian Tracy, LB, William & Mary

7th round (221st): Matt Dodge, P, East Carolina

Still with Giants: Pierre-Paul

Still in NFL: Joseph (Vikings), Dillard (Chargers), Tracy (Cardinals)

Games played with Giants

Pierre-Paul: 63
Joseph: 57
Jones: 0
Dillard: 7
Petrus: 27
Tracy: 16
Dodge: 16

Review: Pierre-Paul and Joseph became standout players, and Joseph is gone only because the Giants decided not to pay him what the market was dictating for top defensive tackle talent this offseason. The two of them were critical components in the Giants' defensive line that helped deliver the franchise's fourth Super Bowl title following the 2011 season, and Pierre-Paul was one of the most dominant defensive players in the league that season and postseason. But after the first two rounds, this was a mess. Jones was promising, but unfortunately never got to have an NFL career as a result of a car accident that nearly killed him during that 2010 offseason. Dodge was their punter for his entire rookie season, but he'll always be remembered for failing to punt the ball out of bounds and allowing DeSean Jackson to run it back for a winning touchdown in the game that crushed their 2010 season. Dillard and Tracy add to the list of mid-round and late-round picks that haven't panned out for them over the past half-decade. If you hit on a couple of those, you're thought of as a good drafting team and you're able to build roster depth. If you hit on none of them, your roster hollows out over time, as the Giants' roster has. This draft will be thought of well if Pierre-Paul can overcome his physical issues and get himself back on the path to stardom. But with Joseph already playing elsewhere at the age of 25, the sad fact is that they didn't get much out of their seven picks in 2010.

Grade: D+

How well do the Giants pay?

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A look at the ESPN The Magazine/Sportingintelligence Global Salary Survey shows that NFL teams don't pay their players very much, at least compared with teams in other sports leagues around the world. This list ranks all of the professional sports teams in the world by average salary per player, and you'll see that the New York Giants this year came in at No. 139 worldwide with an average of $2,089,848 per player. That figure ranks the Giants 12th among NFL teams, just behind the Cincinnati Bengals and just ahead of the San Francisco 49ers. But the highest-ranking NFL team on this list (the Minnesota Vikings) ranks just 115th in the world in terms of average salary per player.

You can see an explanation of the methodology used to assemble this list here, and this here is a link to some charts showing the top-paid athletes in the world overall and by sport. Giants quarterback Eli Manning no longer ranks among the 10 highest-paid players in the NFL.

No team in the NFL has signed more free agents this offseason than the New York Giants, and they may not be done yet.

You already know about backup quarterback candidates Josh Freeman and Matt Flynn, who will visit the Giants on Tuesday because the team may need some help if Eli Manning takes longer than expected to recover from ankle surgery. But quarterback isn't the only spot at which the Giants are still looking to add depth at this late stage.

The Minneapolis Star-Tribune spoke with former Vikings defensive tackle Kevin Williams, who is currently visiting with the Giants. Williams told the paper he had dinner Monday night with Giants defensive line coach Robert Nunn and would meet with Tom Coughlin and other Giants officials Tuesday.

Ironically, the reason Williams is no longer needed in Minnesota is because the Vikings signed defensive tackle Linval Joseph away from the Giants early in the free-agency period. Williams will turn 34 in August and is therefore considerably older than (a) Joseph and (b) nearly all of the other 25 free agents the Giants have signed this offseason. But there's some recent precedent for the Giants adding a respected veteran to their defensive tackle rotation. Shaun Rogers was that guy the last two offseasons. Currently, the rotation includes Cullen Jenkins, Johnathan Hankins, Mike Patterson and Markus Kuhn. It could use some help.

There was also a report Monday linking the Giants to oft-injured wide receiver Sidney Rice, who's apparently telling teams he's been cleared medically, but I am told not to expect the Giants to be serious bidders if a lot of other teams get involved on Rice. Could happen, and if healthy he'd fill a big need for them. But he's never healthy and I think the Giants just sort of checked in to see about the price.
In the wake of the surgery quarterback Eli Manning had on his ankle last week, the New York Giants are bringing in some veteran quarterbacks to have a look at them. Manning is hoping to be able to run by the end of May, and if that's the case he should be fine for the start of the team's offseason practices. But in case his recovery takes longer than expected -- or in case he's not able to participate in May and June drills to the extent he normally does -- the Giants know they may need a quarterback who can take some of the reps he has to miss.

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Freeman
To that end, the Giants will host former Buccaneers and Vikings quarterback Josh Freeman and former Packers quarterback Matt Flynn for visits Tuesday. There's a chance they could sign one of them. There's also a chance they could send them both home and either keep looking or just decide to stick with their current backups, Curtis Painter and Ryan Nassib. The Giants' preference would be that this all ends up unnecessary -- that Manning is fine in time for OTAs and they don't need Freeman, Flynn or any other outside help at quarterback. But there's no harm in looking, and there is plenty of potential harm in bring unprepared.

If I had to guess, I'd predict they sign Flynn. Freeman is the better player, the better athlete and the more accomplished NFL player, but Flynn worked with new Giants offensive coordinator Ben McAdoo in Green Bay from 2008-11 and again last year. And Freeman is coming off a bad year in which questions surfaced about his off-field preparation habits. If the Giants were looking for someone to play games at quarterback for them, Freeman might make more sense. But if all they're looking for is a willing backup who'll take whatever reps come his way for however long Manning has to sit out, Flynn is probably the safer play. But we'll see. You might have an answer by this time Tuesday.

Giants' last five drafts: 2009

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With the NFL draft still, painfully, more than three weeks away, we'll spend each day this week reviewing one of the New York Giants' last five drafts. Working from back to front, we'll start five years ago. The 2009 draft followed a 12-4 season that ended with Plaxico Burress' self-inflicted gunshot wound and a disappointing divisional-round playoff exit that robbed the Giants of a chance to win consecutive Super Bowls. Burress was headed off to jail, and they needed a wide receiver.

The Picks

1st round (29th overall): Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina
2nd round (45): Clint Sintim, LB, Virginia
2nd round (60): Will Beatty, OT, Connecticut
3rd round (85): Ramses Barden, WR, Cal Poly-SLO
3rd round (100): Travis Beckum, TE, Wisconsin
4th round (129): Andre Brown, RB, NC State
5th round (151): Rhett Bomar, QB, Sam Houston State
6th round (200): DeAndre Wright, CB, New Mexico
7th round (238): Stoney Woodson, CB, South Carolina

Still with the Giants: Beatty

Still in NFL: Nicks (Colts), Barden (Bills), Beckum (Seahawks), Brown (Texans)

Nicks
Games played for Giants

Nicks: 74
Sintim: 24
Beatty: 66
Barden: 29
Beckum: 52
Brown: 18
Bomar: 0
Wright: 0
Woodson: 0

Review: Nicks was a top receiver in the NFL for significant portions of the early part of his career, and a huge contributor to the Super Bowl title the Giants won following the 2011 season. He is no longer on the team because he flopped in his 2013 contract year and upset the team with his cavalier attitude about his poor play. The Giants made no attempt to sign him in free agency. The only other player from this draft who played for the Giants during the 2011-12 postseason was Beckum. (Beatty and Barden were injured, the others no longer on the team.) Beckum was a contributor as a special teamer and a blocking tight end, but little more. Beatty is signed for four more years as the franchise left tackle because he was a free agent after a strong 2012 season. Sintim was a complete flop of a relatively high pick. Brown's contribution came late in his Giants tenure and was marred by injury, and the Giants replaced him in free agency this year with Rashad Jennings. Obviously, there were no late-round diamonds in the rough uncovered by Jerry Reese & Co. in 2009. All in all, the impact of this draft comes down to the high-level production Nicks delivered in the 2010 and 2011 seasons, plus the one strong year Beatty has had so far in 2012. Other than Nicks, this draft had almost nothing to do with the Super Bowl title, and its long-term impact now rests completely on the ability of Beatty to play much better than he did in 2013.

Grade: C+

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